Match fishing in FS2


Updated 24th July 2005 


  Match fishing in FS2 is a very enjoyable part of the simulator

Online or Offline matches can be fished and is a big part of being interactive

within the many communities that now exist

Below are some pointers on how to approach a match and to become

consistent and maybe a successful part of the match scene.

Match fishing will not suit everyone's taste, as in real life,

but is a good way of enjoying Fishsim for the way it was intended

 

Red hot Baits !!  -----  Fatty Spice Paste - Fatty Spice Boilies - TJ Pellets - Medicinal Leech - Black Eyed Beans - Fresh Fish Pieces - DB Eel

 

Table of Contents and References

For the Beginner

Online Matches

Offline Matches

The Venue for the Match

 

Bite Indication

Float

Ledger

Preparation

Before you Enter the Match

Official Download/Submitter

Checksums

 

Tackle

Digi-Therm

Rods

Lines

Floats

Weights and Shot

Hooks

Hook Length

Groundbait and Loosefeed

STK Files

TEMP

O2

FDEPTH

COVER

Practice

Baits

Default or Pro ?

 

For the beginner

Online matches

A big mistake for anyone who is new to Fishsim, is to go headlong into entering matches

 without any experience, or knowledge of the simulator, although providing you are aware

of how to join in with online matches, then it is your choice and there for

you to enjoy and compete with other anglers from around the world.

It's OK to join in so long as you realise that there will be people there who now have years of

experience, and you may find it a little daunting. That said you will find all the regulars

very friendly and will welcome you to the match, but don't expect any tips as most

match organisers stipulate no tips as a rule of the match.

However, you will be made to feel at home, and hopefully you will enjoy the experience.

You can learn from these matches and you will soon find yourself competing

along with everyone, so patience and time will pay off.

Don't be put off by a bad result, just move onto the next match and try a little harder,

in the end it will pay-off and if you like fishing the matches, you will go back for more.

 

Offline matches

Similar to online except you will be fishing alone on your PC and you send your results in

to the respective website - This write up assumes you know how to do this.

Again time and patience will reap a reward for you.

 

My advice is to get to know the simulator first and try different venues with different set-ups

There are many Hints & Tips pages on websites which will give you a good idea

of how to tackle some venues.

 

Joining in on fun-fishes is a good way to find out more, as most simmers will give you

guidance of how to fish on a given venue, but at the end of the day it is down to

your honed skills - and with a little luck thrown in!

 

                               

Preparation

 

No matter what you do, you cannot get away with this important part, if only to download

the venue for the match.

Before doing anything else you must ensure you have the correct venue installed, and that

the checksums are correct. Entering a server without the venue will lead to disqualification,

and you will not be able to fish anyhow, so this part is important.

Match organisers and take a dim view of people entering a match without the correct venue installed.

All venues can be found at the Official Download/Submitter

this is the best place to download from.

 

Before you enter into the match

You should ensure you know what venue and which peg the match is on.

Next you need to ensure that the checksums are correct, by pressing F9 when fishing the peg,

you will see some numbers ( usually coloured Cyan ) at the bottom left of the information

panel, at the top of the screen - check this number against the number

on the Records page for your venue, it should match it exactly.

Note - any alterations made to the existing venue files will alter this number and your catch

will be invalid and will end with disqualification.

So you have the venue, the checksums are correct and you are ready for some competition!

Next is to practice and find those match winning fish!

 

              

Practice

It's up to you ! - You will get out of it what you put in - it's that simple

So how do we start to approach a match and be competitive ?

First of all it is all for fun so enjoy it - If you think you can't do this or you are afraid you will not win,

then close this page now and just forget matches.

You will learn to lose before you can win anything ! - and no matter who you are

you will not win everything - it's impossible.

Aim to catch first - and then aim to be consistent - if you win a match you have done well

 

So where to start -- Practice is the key to success, the more the better.

The more experienced people will need a little less time maybe but they will also know

when practice is needed, particularly on a tricky venue.

At this point experience counts for a lot and long serving people will know how to approach

any venue - this comes with practice and many hours in Fishsim.

 

Reading the files that make up a venue can help, particularly the STK files

All venues will have a set of these and will show what the fish prefer and maybe hint

as to what baits will be best, BUT it will only help to a degree as you have to go and catch them.

The permutations are endless and this is what makes FS2 so addictive and enjoyable.

So reading into files will help but will only help in a small way, there are no shortcuts.

Some anglers will read the files, but my advice is to leave well alone

 

So practice is the way to get to know a venue.

A lot of simmers will make notes also for given dates times etc and this is a good way

to collect knowledge as you go, and can help in future matches.

A good hint here is to note who created the venue as sometimes a pattern may show

and may lead to a good method when practicing on other venues by this creator.

Getting to know the simulator, the venue and the peg is the way

and adds to your experience.

 

               
 

The Venue

 

 

First thing is to get familiar with the venue and the peg

Most matches are on fresh water venues but some will be on a sea venue.

The one little tool that will be your aid throughout is the Digi-Therm  - you need

to be able to read this correctly - you don't have to use it if you prefer not to,

but most anglers do, so why start with a dis-advantage?

Understanding how venues are put together will help here as well, and how those

STK files work - venue creators will know how important these are to how the venue

will fish - this doesn't mean that you have to look at these but you can draw some

basic conclusions up for any venue, and here are my basic rules I would follow ----

I know that most species will feed around 3/4 depth to mid-depth

and some will feed hard on the bottom like Tench.

On Sea venues most species will feed on the bottom ( but not all )

If conditions are either very hot or cold it may be that these fish will either

feed higher up or lower in the water, or not at all.

I know that on a lot of venues the ideal O2 setting will be between 7 to 8 - although

this depends on the creator, so using the digi-therm I look for these settings.

Next I look for an ideal temp range of between 12 to 15 degrees.

For high summer species such as carp the Temp will be higher and the O2 lower

I then try a range of baits in these areas - but ensure that you select known good baits like -

Medicinal Leech - Fatty Spice Paste or Boilies - TJ Pellets - Black Eyed Beans

You need to try baits from the main categories which are - Insect - Seed - Processed

We all have our own favourites here.

If this fails to produce any bites then you need to look for further clues

and search out the extremes of the peg - always remember that on most

pegs there will be fish somewhere that will feed - you just have to find them,

which is down to you !

Once you have found those feeding fish - easy on some venues but may be tricky on

others, ask yourself  whether these are best fish to target. It is no good catching

small Roach if everyone else is catching Carp, so try some other areas and methods,

like Boilies either on the bottom or close to the surface.

Once you have found your fish and you feel comfortable you are ready for action !

I never take anything for granted here - other anglers may have found better methods !

 

 

Tackle

There are now hundreds of various addons for fishing tackle - some good and some not so good,

and maybe just nice to have for fun - no discredit to anyone as if you have made an addon at

sometime, you do deserve credit, and many people will gain pleasure from it, but we want

the tackle that will make that difference and maybe catch an extra fish or two.

One thing you don't do is use your own tackle - use only what is available to everyone

on the Addon Submitter, otherwise it could be classed as cheating !

So here I try to explain what to look for and some of my preferences.

 

Rods

This down to your choice really and what ever you feel will do the job

There are no rules to what you can and cant do except that it is available for everyone

Most matches are one rod only, except where the organiser states two

rods can be used, like most sea matches.

My choice here is a rod that will cast long distance and be strong enough to handle big fish.

Spinning rods will cast well and any of the Carp rods will pull the biggies in

Try the margins - get the fish as close as you possibly can - it's quicker

The 5ft PG special will do a good job but is limited on depth

Try the poles ( long rods really ) they can make a big difference

I must say that sometimes the choice of rod can affect the number of bites you get

but this could be my imagination lol.

The choice is yours for experimenting with

 

Lines

Use the Mono lines, they have a smaller diameter than Nylon

Don't be afraid of using a heavy line - you will still get the same number of bites

but on some of the harder venues like the Pro venues it is more important to choose

correctly - again experiment

 

Floats

Your choice of float can make a difference here

Depending on how cautious the fish are you may miss those bites if the float is too heavy

Always fish with the lightest float you can - If you hear the bite warning and your float moves

but you keep missing the fish, it could be your float - try a lighter set up.

All floats have a buoyancy setting for this very reason and will affect bite indication

If you are fishing a deep lake or river make sure you put heavy shot nearer the hook

to make your bait sink faster - it can catch you extra fish over the match period.

For still water fishing I always use a waggler set-up, where-as on rivers I use a stick float.

However for fishing a light bait at shallow depths I will use the Dibber floats ( plug lol )

or one of the tiny bodied floats.

For general use I use the 2BB waggler float with two No 12 at the float and

two No 1 above the hook to make the bait sink quicker. I always attach

the Digi-Therm above the hook - the fish will not detect it.

For float fishing on a sea venue I use the sea floats - these are sliding floats

and can be set at any depth - Bites from sea species are quick and will make this float

disappear so the size of the float does not matter here.

 

Weights and Shot

 

Shotting patterns will affect the way your bait sinks and how your float sits

in the water as in real fishing

For ledgering, the link ledger set up is best and always use the lightest lead you can

On rivers use a weight that suits the situation - heavy to hold the bottom or a lighter

one to roll the bait through the swim.

Free lining is classified as ledgering in FS2 and can catch the more cautious fish,

this is where no weight or float is used. Where Boilies are used free lining will be better

as the weight of the bait is usually enough, to sink to the bottom quickly.

For surface fishing with heavy non floating baits use a cork attachment, they can

work really well on some venues, and always a consideration.

 

For Sea fishing the paternoster rig is best, or a freelined bait

 

Hooks

 

The smaller the better ?

I use the smallest hook I can - If I am missing bites ( which is regular for me )

I will reluctantly go up in size, but this seems to affect the bite rate, so you

need to find the happy medium - you need as many of those fish as possible.

Another thing is the bait you are using and it's preferred hook size, this will

determine your bite rate as well.

Where hair rigged baits are used, the hook size is less important.

Always use the hair rig where possible

Again experiment in practice to find the best set up.

For sea venues - think big !

 

Hook Length

 

The Hook length can be adjusted - make it as long as you can, it seems to make

a difference - same with Fly and Lure - use the longest trace possible.

 

 

Baits

There are hundreds of baits ( we know this already )

There are a lot of baits that work well ( we know this as well )

There are a lot of baits that catch on certain venues only ( we thought they did )

There are some baits that don't work at all ( you could be right )

There are baits that are "killer baits" ( maybe )

 

Of anything in FS2 - your bait choice is the most critical choice

and can be the difference in your first win

 

This website has a page dedicated to all the baits with some info included

but each person will use his/her own favourites, and many have been created

to suit an individuals own requirements on a particular venue or peg.

Whatever your thoughts are - there is still a few of the baits that will

work under most conditions, and these show up time and time again

as the winning bait.

No matter what bait you make or use, FS2 will determine its effectiveness,

so no matter what bait is created it will only be effective and not a killer.

It is down to personal choice, but how many, go into a match without

Medicinal Leech - Fatty Spice Paste or Boilies - TJ Pellets - Black Eyed Beans

The Fatty Spice baits are outstanding baits on most venues

There are many others but I could write a web page on them :-)

and everyone will have there own favourites.

Hints and Tips pages are a good place to look for effective baits.

On most matches, the choice of will make the difference.

 

There has been many discussions on baits, and whether they can be created

and used by any one individual - at the moment any baits used should be available

for all to use as an addon - This means that any baits that fall outside of this,

would be classed as a from of cheating and is detectable within FS2

Alteration of the files for a baits will also be detected.

You may agree with this or disagree but it seems a fair way, whilst not everyone

can alter files, which may cause damage if done incorrectly.

 

 

Bite indication

 

Float

Any form of bite can be created for any shoal of fish, by the creator

So bites will be similar to normal experiences in real fishing

Most anglers, if not all will use the audible bite warning, and depending on the settings

a bite will be immediate or may take a few seconds to show. If you hear the warning but don't see

the bite, check your set-up as above - it could be too heavy for the fish.

Some species will have a high CAUTION line within the STK files and these fish will be

shy biters, whereas the opposite can be said for a low caution line.

Part of your practice has to be knowing when to strike at a bite - getting to know the peg

Too early or too late and your Whatif file will be bigger than your keepnet.

Sea fish will take the float violently and quickly so no problems here.

So timing is the key and be prepared to adjust to the different shoals you may

encounter - they may be set up differently.

Only practice will show this up.

 

Ledger

There are many indicators that have been made for ledgering, from the default quiver tip

to the sophisticated bite alarms, but I use none of them!

The best indicator, and indeed the best fun for me is just simply watching the rod tip.

I cast in and just tighten up to the weight and wait for the bite - the tip will

pull round, and depending on what species it may be slowly or very fast.

On Sea venues when I hear the warning - I watch the line where it enters the water -

any movement and I strike - great fun !

 

Fly fishing is not my favourite pastime in FS2 but worth a mention here

On dry fly only strike when you hear/see that second splash - sit on your hands for the first

On wet fly or nymph - hit the fish as soon as the rod arcs round and remember to keep

a tight line to your fly.

 

 

 

Groundbait and Loosefeed

 

This could be your best chance to gain an advantage or it could be your biggest mistake!

There are those venues that respond to extra feed and those that will switch off on the the

first splash. This has to be done by trial and error, in your practice sessions.

My preference is to use the Cloudbait for all occasions, where it seems to work, and loosefeed

my hookbait as well, again where it will work.

With both methods you aim the centre of the cross hairs directly where your float sits,

or if you are ledgering, where the line enters the water.

So why does it work on some venues and not on others?

If the creator has given his Stocks ( STK files ) a minus value for GB or LF

then loose feeding or ground baiting will make the fish turn away from your

bait - it makes that area no longer suitable for that species.

Again depending on the venue settings, you can overfeed a swim.

Once enough feed has entered the water the fish will turn away if  the boundaries of

the settings are exceeded.

One of  the most important thing that will affected by your splashing is the noise factor

This in itself will scare the most hardiest of fish away !

All the above is down to you and your practice and to see what works or not.

 

Ledgering using feeders - Feeder Fishing

Each feeder has its own tackle file - In this file you will see what effects the

feeder will have - It may show a 50% loosefeed / 50% groundbait mix

In other words - The Groundbait and Bait you have selected at that time

will go into the contents of your feeder - Will it work ?

Again it is up to you to experiment - I stick to the underarm throw myself lol.

 

 

STK Files and reading them

 

Ok I said leave well alone and practice your winning method, but many anglers

do read the files behind the simulator to try and gain advantage - be it right or wrong

anyone one of us can do this.

So if you don't want to know, now is the time to close this page !

Creator's will put a lot of time and effort to set their stocks up to feed at certain times

and in certain ways.

By far the best way to learn about STK files and there settings is to read the manuals

or have a go at making your own venue - the more time spent in understanding the

workings of FS2 the better you will become.

However that is not what match fishing is about, and no matter how much theory

you understand, you still have to go and catch the fish, but here is my guide to

the STK files to help you in your understanding.

You firstly have to locate the stock files relevant to the venue you are fishing - I assume

you have found them, at this stage.

Lets have a look at a 2 year old Carp from the River Lot.

Located in the species/stocks folder within your Fishsim main folder.

Open the file and you will see the following

Looking at the settings - you need to read the column that is highlighted in red

These are the ideal settings for this shoal and if you can find this range in the

peg, you will most likely catch one of these fellows.

Using the digi-therm is a must for this.

 

REF CMCARP        
MINSIZE 384         The minimum size of Carp in the shoal ( in drms )
MAXSIZE 768         The maximum size of Carp in the shoal ( in drms )
Ideal Min Max Tests
TEMP 25.16 4.0 38.0 4 The ideal Temperature is 25.16 degrees
O2 3.61 2.1 12.8 3 The ideal O2 ( oxygen ) is 3.61%
PH 6.5 5.6 9.2 2 The ideal PH ( acidic content ) is 6.5%
FDEPTH 70 -50 150 3 The ideal feeding depth is 70% ( 3/4 depth )
LIGHT 90  -100 190 2 The ideal light condition is 90%
SALINE 0 -10 2 1 The ideal salt content is zero
FLOW 0 -10 45 2 The ideal water flow is zero
COVER 70 -90 190 2 The shoal like 70% cover
         
END        

The ideal line is the one to look for

The Min line is the lowest the shoal will tolerate

The Max line is the maximum the shoal will tolerate

The Tests is the number of times FS will calculate whether conditions are correct for the shoal.

As you can see if all criteria are met and you are in the correct spot, you will get a bite !

 

 

Default or Pro League ?

 

Default venues make the main stay of all matches run with Fishsim

Ranging from very easy ( fish a chuck venues ) to some very good harder venues.

The choice of venue is down to the organiser and he/she will determine how easy or hard

the venue will be. You enter a match for a number of reasons ......

To win ? - To take part and enjoy the experience - and to enjoy Fishsim and what it can offer.

Whatever your reasons you will find good friendly competition.

This is the same for Pro League as well

 

There is a big difference between the Default matches and Pro matches

In the main Default is fished at a time when fish will be caught, usually during the

Summer months - whereas with Pro it is always fished at the current time of

year. Therefore Winter fishing is a big aspect and some matches are quite hard.

 

The big difference with a pro venue is, it has been created to a tighter criteria

and whilst not all venues may be difficult they are certainly nearer to what you

would expect in real life.

 

For any newcomer it is advisable to fish the default matches first, to get a "feel"

and then maybe move onto the pro venues.

One thing that is required if you take to pro is - practice !

Even then there are no guarantees, as the way pro venues are constructed, means

you may find little subtle differences when fishing the match. This is down to

different variables used on pro venues.

However your practice will give you an idea of how to approach the venue, and hopefully

achieve some kind of success. To be successful on the pro matches is to

take part and catch, to your "game plan" - approach these venues as you would

a real life match. Most of the people in Pro League are expererienced Fishsim

users and have been around a long time, and have most of the knowledge

explained above, but on numerous occasions even the best have been seen to come

unstuck on these venues. So be aware that Pro matches are not always predicable.

 

At the end of the day and if you have read all this page, you have some idea of

how to approach your match it is down to you and your skill and knowledge.

Above all else though is to enjoy the Fishsim expererience, in whatever you choose to do.

 

Tight Lines to All !!

 

 

 

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